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 Post subject: Dumping Tape/Disk Images
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:56 pm 
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Hello,

I have been scouring this site and the AA forum for information on dumping original A8 tapes/disks to a shareable format to no avail.

I'm a rookie here, so please forgive me in advance, if this should be common knowledge or if it's been asked and I am overlooking it somewhere.

I have a couple of old games that aren't available on the atarimania site and think some people might be interested in them. If I could be pointed in the right direction, I'd appreciate any info on how this is accomplished.

I have an Atari 800XL w/ MyIDE-II

Thanks! :)


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 Post subject: Re: Dumping Tape/Disk Images
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:21 am 
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Good question.

What titles/media are we looking at?

Tapes are the most difficult. They come in various formats.
Single stage, multiple-stage (=most common), CLOAD-version and custom formats.
Single-stage/CLOAD-versions you can dump to disk with various programs.
I used to copy the data of multiple-stage to disk and add a loader using hack-methodes.
Custom-formats I used to hack them and put to disk.

Disks should be relative easy.
When they have copy protection-schemes, you need to do some hacking too.
You can copy them to image-space with MyBIOS.
Then load the ATR-files on your PC with the MyIDE_manager.

Grtz,
Sijmen.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:56 am 
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Hi, thanks for the help thus far.

Dunjonquest - Curse of Ra (Tape)
Dunjonquest - The Keys of Acheron (Disk)


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 Post subject: Re: Dumping Tape/Disk Images
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:29 am 
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Try to copy the disk into an image slot.
If it does not run, zip/send me the ATR and I have a look.
If protected, copy the original to an empty disk.
Then copy the copy to an image-slot, zip/send me the ATR.

Tape:
Just boot it and look at the progress.
If you boot in one go, it's single :)


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:33 am 
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google....

http://www.myabandonware.com/search/DUNJONQUEST/


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:54 pm 
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mr-atari wrote:


This link seems to lead to some other system version. I don't recognize the structure of those zip files.

I am hoping to preserve the Atari images.

The problems I am facing are that my Temple of Apshai cassette is giving me "Error 143 AT LINE 0"'s and the Upper Reaches of Apshai & Curse of Ra are both Expansions, so I'm not even sure they'd load without loading the ToA program first.

I tried both of those cassette's on their own, but got the same error messages.

I am not very familair with the MyIDE-II and am trying to brush up on how it works, but it's a tad confusing. I find myself in lots of dead-ends, while trying to figure it out.

In order to test the expansion cassettes(which on the outside, look to be in better condition than the ToA tape), I thought maybe I could use the MyIDE-II to load the ToA cassette image, then load the expansions via the 1010 tape drive, but not sure this is possible.

I am also reading up on A82CAS right now.

Thanks for the help so far :)


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:20 am 
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Also, I am assuming these are CLOAD tapes, since that's the command to get them running :)


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:11 am 
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They are all BASIC files, so it should be easy to convert.
The images are only the files, not a DOS-disk.
Just move the files in the ZIP to a ATARI-dos disk?

Can you record the tapes, convert to MP3, zip and upload them?
(Just connect a standard cassette player to your PC)
The disks I already told how to share them.

Later!
Sijmen.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:16 pm 
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Thanks Sijmen.

I'm learning a lot here. I guess now that I'm starting to figure all this out is that in my original post, I was trying to ask if there was a way to use the MyIDE-II for both Cassette and Disk drive dumping. I don't have a 1050 yet, but do have a 1010, so I'll have to wait on checking the disk to see if it has degraded or not. Hopefully I will be able to use Image Space to get a copy of the ATR when I acquire a 1050 drive.

Can the Image Space not load cassettes from an actual 1010 tape drive? Probably a silly question, but I am not very familiar with Image Space yet, so please forgive my ignorance. It looks like I will need to find or buy a cassette player to rip the audio from the tapes into my computer. Hopefully that won't be a total waste of time. I realize most of these disks and tapes have probably succumbed to bitrot.

Thanks again for your time!


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:19 am 
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Ah, ok.

MyBIOS has NO cassette-drivers, sorry.
These are replaced by IDE-stuff.
Some cassette related vectors are still present, but only for compatibility reasons.

You can record your tape on PC and use WAV-to-CAS or some program like that.
Google for it and you find enough about it.
Then you should be ably to create some files usable for Altirra on PC (atari-emulator),
that has MyIDE-support for playing around.

For as I know, you need a ATARI 1050 to read/convert disks.....

Later,
Sijmen.


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